2. this is ridiculous.

I couldn’t agree with you more. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

DS

I believe you when you say you are trying to unseat the fashion royals like Anna Wintour and Andre Leon Tally. Just make sure you don’t end up being likened to them in the end. The ivory tower is a lonely place to be, and you have so much more to offer than “just being right” about this one situation.

Now, back away from the “Julie Frederickson” Google search. There is some indie fashion designer out there waiting to be discovered by you!

Hugs and creamy kisses,

Jill

We did ask and the response was that our paths we’re “diverging”. When we asked for more information, we received no response. We were really disappointed since we regularly talked about our association with their network and would always participate in any events or initiatives they tried putting together. This whole thing has left such a bad taste in our mouth and the comments they left on our post made us strongly distrust their practices.

We have maintained successful relationships with wonderful networks such as Glam and Web Snob. Our network managers are professional and whenever there are issues we receive a quick response and are treated with respect.

We have never received such treatment from Coutorture and honestly, the only reason we remained on their network was cause of their connection to Sugar Publishing. Lisa Sugar has always been a great influence on womens blogging and we enjoyed the idea of connecting to her blogs. Of course, we never really saw any of the benefits of connecting to them.

Honestly, a lot of this could have been avoided in Julie in general was a nicer person. Sarah is a complete sweetheart and what hurts me most is how some of my comments might be construed by her. Julie on the other hand is the epitome of “fashion bitch”. So high on her pedestal she remains that she forgets that most of the people in the industry dislike her. Pair that with her connection to fashion blogging in general and you have a lot of people looking at fashion bloggers as stuck up little nobodies. I have made it my goal to change that impression, but first blogs like Coutorture need to change their practices. It will take time to unseat someone like Julie from her position, but it is something that I and other bloggers know must happen before any of us can be taken seriously by the spectrum of fashion publishers.

My response to this matter was purposely sensationalized, I knew my post would get attention, and I used tacticts that were “childish” on purpose. Unfortunatley, for anyone to get attention these days in blogging you need to stoop to Perez Hilton style anticts. (Do you think Gawker would have cared if I wasn’t so extreme?)

And besides. Blogging is nothing like magazines. All bloggers have chosen to go online to express themselves without limitations. We’ve been compared to Fox News, which I really do love, for our practices and in the long line of blogging, I’m sure this first strike will resonate as the start of a change in blogging networks and fashion online in general.

Our means of communicating our message is not bitchy, or gossipy, or childish. It is the way messages are translated online, with back-up from other sites, visuals, and commentary from the site in question. We laid out the facts and while we were the ones victimized in it, we gave an honest opinion of someone who has continuously placed a bad image of the fashion blogger in the minds of the public. Hopefully this helps Julie realize that her behaviour is inappropriate and she will publically apologize to us and to all the bloggers she has slighted in her years on the web. Then maybe she’d get that massive stick out of her ass and act like a normal human being. (See what I did there, sensationalize).

On a side note, Julie, if you’re reading (which I know you are), stop acting like such as bitch. It’s getting old. We’ve been actively trying to unseat the fashion royals (Anna Wintour, Andre Leon Tally, and the other magazine hacks) for sometime. I don’t think we want to get rid of them to place more people like them in their seats. Take a page from other young, successful fashion types like Faran Kitching or Lesley Scott and try to play nice. We’re all heading to the same place, but when we’ve taken over we’ll be sure to pay less attention to folks like you. So be nice and maybe nice things will happen to you. Till then, I’ll continue to search the net for photos that make you look like shit.

Hugs and Disses,

Daniel Saynt

also I stopped reading Coutorture about 1 mth after I came across it -last yr, it just reads like a very angry woman who never had friends and suddenly under the cloak of ‘online makes me cool’ is using her blog to be vindictive and mean spirited. I never enjoyed the read and have never gone back since.

Now i”m just a lowly reader in Asia who will never make an impact and not a minion sent by anyone to seed ideas but I just wanted to point out that all those who dislike any site should really learnt to use their delete buttons more.

I quasi interned for the Coutorture people this past fashion week, so I guess I can say I “know” them. I wasn’t exactly the best intern, so I may be biased, but I can say they do get a bit intense. They can be brutally honest, and even potentially inappropriate. However, I think when you want to make something of yourself, you have to not give a flying shit about making others feel comfortable. I also met you, Daniel, once during fashion week (you probably don’t remember and its okay), and you seemed really sweet, but being a Fashion Indie reader I know you have a vicious side. I guess I agree a bit with Jill from TDLC, that there was a bit of overkill somewhere in this post, but in the couple weeks I worked with the Coutorture people, I can understand how it is quite easy to get beyond angry at them.

Daniel, keep doing what you do. It always seems to bring a smirk to my face. Whatever your blog stats may be, I doubt your readers will care. I think you honestly have less need for Coutorture than other blogs considering how large Fashion Indie has become.

This all just seems like overkill.

You # Fan !

That is not good.

Either take this fight to its ultimate level and provide the ultimate bitchslap by calling her Hillary Clinton or make total feminine peace.

Don’t be the wrong kind of bottom and get me involved again, ok?

Peace out.

Sarah and Julie are great people. No, amazing people. And when they don’t like something, they say it. I think, in fact, they are more like you than you think.

So, the smear campaign is a little much, don’t you think? You should be praising them for sticking to their guns, even if you don’t agree with them. Lord knows you will stick with yours!

The comment about traffic is a controversy many bloggers have – what are true and accurate statistics? Frankly, I don’t know which of my analytics to trust, because google says I shouldn’t be wasting my time and Webalyzer says I should be independently wealthy.

I was just a bit surprised by all the drama this morning (PST time here). Good luck!

I know Sara and Julie, not personally, but virtually. I have nothing but respect for them.

In a case like this, I am bit disappointed in folks not taking the high ground. Pictures and shit talking don’t help bloggers. We look like amateurs. Or tabloid rags – take your pick. But this is not what I have come to know Fashion Indie to be.

But asking us to choose sides? Seriously?

And notice that unlike many bloggers, I do not post anonymously. Fuck it.