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		<title>By: Tardy</title>
		<link>http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-22785</link>
		<dc:creator>Tardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! I&#039;m late BUT- I think that gay men are absolutely and positively different from 
a regular man. Whoever wrote this must have some sort of self pity. Gay 
mean are different, gay men didn&#039;t &quot;invent&quot; fashion so why are you putting the blame  
on them for how the models look? I LOVE gay designers because they happen  
to have a better fashion sense than most women. The model image thing is the woman&#039;s fault  
in my eyes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! I&#039;m late BUT- I think that gay men are absolutely and positively different from<br />
a regular man. Whoever wrote this must have some sort of self pity. Gay<br />
mean are different, gay men didn&#039;t &quot;invent&quot; fashion so why are you putting the blame<br />
on them for how the models look? I LOVE gay designers because they happen<br />
to have a better fashion sense than most women. The model image thing is the woman&#039;s fault<br />
in my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-16578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The brainless, dazed, deficient, idiotic, person who wrote this is a nimrod! They are just mad because their &quot;fat ass&quot; can&#039;t probably fit in these wonderful designers clothing! Don&#039;t be jealous that some gay guys know what their doing and knows how to make wonderful clothing! And by the way, some of the designers listed above make clothing for plus size women! Maybe next time you should do more research. Oh yeah, are you gay yourself and have problems or something? Gay men are actually not idiots or whatever you like to call them, they are more compassionate and caring towards women! Gay men can relate to women more than straight men! Daniel Saynt I don&#039;t necessarily mean to be rude but you&#039;re the most meaningless, unintelligent, loser I have ever heard of! And why did I read this stupid article?! Ugh!  :evil: 

Anyways, have a good day bitches.
XOXO IanShane  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brainless, dazed, deficient, idiotic, person who wrote this is a nimrod! They are just mad because their &#8220;fat ass&#8221; can&#8217;t probably fit in these wonderful designers clothing! Don&#8217;t be jealous that some gay guys know what their doing and knows how to make wonderful clothing! And by the way, some of the designers listed above make clothing for plus size women! Maybe next time you should do more research. Oh yeah, are you gay yourself and have problems or something? Gay men are actually not idiots or whatever you like to call them, they are more compassionate and caring towards women! Gay men can relate to women more than straight men! Daniel Saynt I don&#8217;t necessarily mean to be rude but you&#8217;re the most meaningless, unintelligent, loser I have ever heard of! And why did I read this stupid article?! Ugh!  <img src='http://fashionindie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Anyways, have a good day bitches.<br />
XOXO IanShane  <img src='http://fashionindie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Smugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a cool place i found to buy pants ..www.smugglingduds.com...and theres a stash pocket for essentials:P check them out. Let free will prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a cool place i found to buy pants ..www.smugglingduds.com&#8230;and theres a stash pocket for essentials:P check them out. Let free will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Your page is now on StumbleUpon!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your page is now on StumbleUpon!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Thom Browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Thom Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Calvin Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Calvin Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Trend de la Creme - Indulge Your Trend Obsession: 2008-04-27</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trend de la Creme - Indulge Your Trend Obsession: 2008-04-27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chéant blume - Exercises galore</title>
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		<dc:creator>chéant blume - Exercises galore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brooksie</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooksie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 00:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least half of the guys up there up there have a &quot;classic&quot; design aesthetic (a few listed aren&#039;t even gay or women&#039;s wear designers)....it&#039;s only the few who do the wild and unwearable and even then it&#039;s only a few pieces usually. To a large extent, it&#039;s women who choose how the image is portrayed via the fashion magazine. This is as much, if not more, responsible for whatever images get out there to the public. 

The idea of fashion being &quot;aspirational&quot; seems a more American approach than a French or Italian one......which I think is reflected in the to approach and quality of mag editorials. Americans seem to take what they see literally as the one and only way to be fashionable....that&#039;s where the trouble comes in. The Euro editions merely show you what&#039;s there, but the American editions attempt to instruct and define who/what/how it should be done. In French fashion particularly, there has always been a strong presence of female designers and they weren&#039;t neglected in fashion coverage (which has until recently been the case in the US outside of 3-4 big name female designers). So not only were the French aware of alternatives, but they aren&#039;t told that there&#039;s only one way to approach something.

Perhaps we need to get away from the idea of &quot;aspirational&quot; and start thinking of designers and magazines as only suggestions. I think self-esteem would rise considerably if the need to be so literal is put into some perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least half of the guys up there up there have a &#8220;classic&#8221; design aesthetic (a few listed aren&#8217;t even gay or women&#8217;s wear designers)&#8230;.it&#8217;s only the few who do the wild and unwearable and even then it&#8217;s only a few pieces usually. To a large extent, it&#8217;s women who choose how the image is portrayed via the fashion magazine. This is as much, if not more, responsible for whatever images get out there to the public. </p>
<p>The idea of fashion being &#8220;aspirational&#8221; seems a more American approach than a French or Italian one&#8230;&#8230;which I think is reflected in the to approach and quality of mag editorials. Americans seem to take what they see literally as the one and only way to be fashionable&#8230;.that&#8217;s where the trouble comes in. The Euro editions merely show you what&#8217;s there, but the American editions attempt to instruct and define who/what/how it should be done. In French fashion particularly, there has always been a strong presence of female designers and they weren&#8217;t neglected in fashion coverage (which has until recently been the case in the US outside of 3-4 big name female designers). So not only were the French aware of alternatives, but they aren&#8217;t told that there&#8217;s only one way to approach something.</p>
<p>Perhaps we need to get away from the idea of &#8220;aspirational&#8221; and start thinking of designers and magazines as only suggestions. I think self-esteem would rise considerably if the need to be so literal is put into some perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: collective selection &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Women&#8217;s Fashion Designed by Gay Men</title>
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		<dc:creator>collective selection &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Women&#8217;s Fashion Designed by Gay Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fashion Indie goes on a rant about the disproportionate number of gay men designing women&#8217;s clothes: (Photo credit to Daniele Oberrauch for Style.com) Not to get all on the side of feminism here, but why is it that so much of what you wear is influenced by a man? Men don’t know jack about woman and gay men are especially tuned out to your needs since nothing about your figure or body satisfies them physically. They’re looking for twigs and berries and all you offer is, well, you know what you have to offer&#8230;Why don&#8217;t they care? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fashion Indie goes on a rant about the disproportionate number of gay men designing women&#8217;s clothes: (Photo credit to Daniele Oberrauch for Style.com) Not to get all on the side of feminism here, but why is it that so much of what you wear is influenced by a man? Men don’t know jack about woman and gay men are especially tuned out to your needs since nothing about your figure or body satisfies them physically. They’re looking for twigs and berries and all you offer is, well, you know what you have to offer&#8230;Why don&#8217;t they care? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t more people - gay or straight, women or men - design clothes for the &#039;real woman&#039;? Because fashion is ASPIRATIONAL. Its about fantasy. Actually, plenty of clothes out there *are* designed for the average woman but they&#039;re not, however, the ones that drive the fantasy hype of the magazines and runways. They&#039;ve tried it - putting normal women in wearable clothes - in the fantasy and guess what? It doesn&#039;t sell. We see that on the streets everywhere and its not what we want to see in our aspirational fantasy. 

When most straight men design clothes, their designs look like they&#039;re for strippers. Or video game characters. Gay men seem to be better able to create this abstract ideal of feminine beauty without overtly sexualizing it. 

So why do gay men rule the fashion world and not women? Is it the boys club network? Check out Eric Wilson&#039;s Dec 05 article in the NY Times for some insight. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/fashion/thursdaystyles/08FASHION.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=gay+men+fashion+pier&amp;st=nyt&amp;oref=slogin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t more people &#8211; gay or straight, women or men &#8211; design clothes for the &#8216;real woman&#8217;? Because fashion is ASPIRATIONAL. Its about fantasy. Actually, plenty of clothes out there *are* designed for the average woman but they&#8217;re not, however, the ones that drive the fantasy hype of the magazines and runways. They&#8217;ve tried it &#8211; putting normal women in wearable clothes &#8211; in the fantasy and guess what? It doesn&#8217;t sell. We see that on the streets everywhere and its not what we want to see in our aspirational fantasy. </p>
<p>When most straight men design clothes, their designs look like they&#8217;re for strippers. Or video game characters. Gay men seem to be better able to create this abstract ideal of feminine beauty without overtly sexualizing it. </p>
<p>So why do gay men rule the fashion world and not women? Is it the boys club network? Check out Eric Wilson&#8217;s Dec 05 article in the NY Times for some insight. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/fashion/thursdaystyles/08FASHION.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=gay+men+fashion+pier&amp;st=nyt&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/fashion/thursdaystyles/08FASHION.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=gay+men+fashion+pier&amp;st=nyt&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stuff I Read</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuff I Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 05:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] topic that has been floating around the internet for a while, but I like this particular write up. This is why I hate the &#039;high fashion&#039; side of the apparel industry.  LinkLeave a [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Even anti-social people need friends. -</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even anti-social people need friends. -</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] 7:47 PM       This is a topic that has been floating around the internet for a while, but I like this particular write up. This is why I hate the &#039;high fashion&#039; side of the apparel industry. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Cheap JAP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Operation Avoidance: The One-Shoulder Top</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheap JAP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Operation Avoidance: The One-Shoulder Top</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who influences approximately 98% of fashion&#8217;s trends? Gay men. And guess who gay men have in mind when they&#8217;re designing women&#8217;s clothing? Other men. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] who influences approximately 98% of fashion&#8217;s trends? Gay men. And guess who gay men have in mind when they&#8217;re designing women&#8217;s clothing? Other men. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Saynt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Saynt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the love. Perry ellis had been fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the love. Perry ellis had been fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: missviolet</title>
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		<dc:creator>missviolet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i loved this article.  you were able to analyze the fashion industry&#039;s attack on womens bodies in a conscise manner.  also, you repeated &quot;perry ellis&quot; twice on your list, dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i loved this article.  you were able to analyze the fashion industry&#8217;s attack on womens bodies in a conscise manner.  also, you repeated &#8220;perry ellis&#8221; twice on your list, dear.</p>
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		<title>By: trendinista</title>
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		<dc:creator>trendinista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I just ate some garlic. You smell that.&quot;  Okay, I think I just peed myself a little!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Elegant Lines - A weblog about style, fashion and home…</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elegant Lines - A weblog about style, fashion and home…</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;all men are idiots(well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the &quot;Cool Jewelry Report&quot; featuring Mari Funaki, Bijules, and Renata Mann.Fashion Binge is having a love/hate relationship with extreme handbags.Couture In The City wants you to&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: trendinista</title>
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