Comments on: Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/ FashionIndie features all facets of fashion lifestyle. Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:50:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: hephzabahhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-3/#comment-38252 hephzabah Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:10:00 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-38252 You wrote exactly what I have been thinking for a long time. When women let go of their need to be loved by a man (not that being loved is wrong but "needing" to be loved sets us up for failure-and please note that needing to be loved and dependence are two different things), we will start to exist and exert influence as the strong human beings we are. Currently, we are defined by our sex and nothing more. Education, work experience, etc-except for that of the few viewed as "bitches" (most who are of the opposite persuasion and view any dependence or reliance on a man as weakness)-are merely adornments most women "put on" in their pursuit of a man. You wrote exactly what I have been thinking for a long time. When women let go of their need to be loved by a man (not that being loved is wrong but “needing” to be loved sets us up for failure-and please note that needing to be loved and dependence are two different things), we will start to exist and exert influence as the strong human beings we are. Currently, we are defined by our sex and nothing more. Education, work experience, etc-except for that of the few viewed as “bitches” (most who are of the opposite persuasion and view any dependence or reliance on a man as weakness)-are merely adornments most women “put on” in their pursuit of a man.

]]> By: Eye of the Fish | A wide-angle view of architecture, urban design and life in Wellingtonhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-3/#comment-35555 Eye of the Fish | A wide-angle view of architecture, urban design and life in Wellington Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:30:16 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-35555 [...] those that design for the High St. Is this fashion, or is this fascist? Most of the fashion world seems to be ruled by gay men, who often seem not to care a fig about the practicalities or the women they are designing for. Is [...] [...] those that design for the High St. Is this fashion, or is this fascist? Most of the fashion world seems to be ruled by gay men, who often seem not to care a fig about the practicalities or the women they are designing for. Is [...]

]]> By: Operation Avoidance: The One-Shoulder Tophttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-32920 Operation Avoidance: The One-Shoulder Top Mon, 24 May 2010 21:02:54 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-32920 [...] Top May 2, 2008, 12:33 pm Guess who influences approximately 98% of fashion’s trends? Gay men. And guess who gay men have in mind when they’re designing women’s clothing? Other men. [...] [...] Top May 2, 2008, 12:33 pm Guess who influences approximately 98% of fashion’s trends? Gay men. And guess who gay men have in mind when they’re designing women’s clothing? Other men. [...]

]]> By: Tardyhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-22785 Tardy Wed, 27 May 2009 14:39:36 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-22785 Yes! I'm late BUT- I think that gay men are absolutely and positively different from a regular man. Whoever wrote this must have some sort of self pity. Gay mean are different, gay men didn't "invent" fashion so why are you putting the blame on them for how the models look? I LOVE gay designers because they happen to have a better fashion sense than most women. The model image thing is the woman's fault in my eyes. Yes! I'm late BUT- I think that gay men are absolutely and positively different from
a regular man. Whoever wrote this must have some sort of self pity. Gay
mean are different, gay men didn't "invent" fashion so why are you putting the blame
on them for how the models look? I LOVE gay designers because they happen
to have a better fashion sense than most women. The model image thing is the woman's fault
in my eyes.

]]> By: Ianhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-16578 Ian Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:19:12 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-16578 The brainless, dazed, deficient, idiotic, person who wrote this is a nimrod! They are just mad because their "fat ass" can't probably fit in these wonderful designers clothing! Don't be jealous that some gay guys know what their doing and knows how to make wonderful clothing! And by the way, some of the designers listed above make clothing for plus size women! Maybe next time you should do more research. Oh yeah, are you gay yourself and have problems or something? Gay men are actually not idiots or whatever you like to call them, they are more compassionate and caring towards women! Gay men can relate to women more than straight men! Daniel Saynt I don't necessarily mean to be rude but you're the most meaningless, unintelligent, loser I have ever heard of! And why did I read this stupid article?! Ugh! :evil:Anyways, have a good day bitches. XOXO IanShane :) The brainless, dazed, deficient, idiotic, person who wrote this is a nimrod! They are just mad because their “fat ass” can’t probably fit in these wonderful designers clothing! Don’t be jealous that some gay guys know what their doing and knows how to make wonderful clothing! And by the way, some of the designers listed above make clothing for plus size women! Maybe next time you should do more research. Oh yeah, are you gay yourself and have problems or something? Gay men are actually not idiots or whatever you like to call them, they are more compassionate and caring towards women! Gay men can relate to women more than straight men! Daniel Saynt I don’t necessarily mean to be rude but you’re the most meaningless, unintelligent, loser I have ever heard of! And why did I read this stupid article?! Ugh! :evil:

Anyways, have a good day bitches.
XOXO IanShane :)

]]> By: Smugshttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-16268 Smugs Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:01:32 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-16268 Just a cool place i found to buy pants ..www.smugglingduds.com...and theres a stash pocket for essentials:P check them out. Let free will prevail. Just a cool place i found to buy pants ..www.smugglingduds.com…and theres a stash pocket for essentials:P check them out. Let free will prevail.

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]]> By: Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Thom Brownehttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-12359 Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Thom Browne Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:59:19 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-12359 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers [...]

]]> By: Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Calvin Kleinhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-9841 Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers - Calvin Klein Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:34:58 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-9841 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Stuff Fashion People Like #21 Gay Fashion Designers [...]

]]> By: Trend de la Creme - Indulge Your Trend Obsession: 2008-04-27http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-8219 Trend de la Creme - Indulge Your Trend Obsession: 2008-04-27 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:19:47 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-8219 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Time Out New YorkFashion Indie explains why all men are idiots (well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the "Cool Jewelry Report" featuring Mari Funaki, [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Time Out New YorkFashion Indie explains why all men are idiots (well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the “Cool Jewelry Report” featuring Mari Funaki, [...]

]]> By: chéant blume - Exercises galorehttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-7950 chéant blume - Exercises galore Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:52:07 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-7950 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] that soo muchi needed that (Reply) (Thread) (Link) antibromide on June 3rd, 2008 10:47 pm (UTC) Read this article because you need to stop trying to look like an 8 year old boy because gay men are telling you how [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] that soo muchi needed that (Reply) (Thread) (Link) antibromide on June 3rd, 2008 10:47 pm (UTC) Read this article because you need to stop trying to look like an 8 year old boy because gay men are telling you how [...]

]]> By: brooksiehttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-2/#comment-5560 brooksie Sun, 11 May 2008 00:01:58 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-5560 At least half of the guys up there up there have a "classic" design aesthetic (a few listed aren't even gay or women's wear designers)....it's only the few who do the wild and unwearable and even then it's only a few pieces usually. To a large extent, it's women who choose how the image is portrayed via the fashion magazine. This is as much, if not more, responsible for whatever images get out there to the public.The idea of fashion being "aspirational" seems a more American approach than a French or Italian one......which I think is reflected in the to approach and quality of mag editorials. Americans seem to take what they see literally as the one and only way to be fashionable....that's where the trouble comes in. The Euro editions merely show you what's there, but the American editions attempt to instruct and define who/what/how it should be done. In French fashion particularly, there has always been a strong presence of female designers and they weren't neglected in fashion coverage (which has until recently been the case in the US outside of 3-4 big name female designers). So not only were the French aware of alternatives, but they aren't told that there's only one way to approach something.Perhaps we need to get away from the idea of "aspirational" and start thinking of designers and magazines as only suggestions. I think self-esteem would rise considerably if the need to be so literal is put into some perspective. At least half of the guys up there up there have a “classic” design aesthetic (a few listed aren’t even gay or women’s wear designers)….it’s only the few who do the wild and unwearable and even then it’s only a few pieces usually. To a large extent, it’s women who choose how the image is portrayed via the fashion magazine. This is as much, if not more, responsible for whatever images get out there to the public.

The idea of fashion being “aspirational” seems a more American approach than a French or Italian one……which I think is reflected in the to approach and quality of mag editorials. Americans seem to take what they see literally as the one and only way to be fashionable….that’s where the trouble comes in. The Euro editions merely show you what’s there, but the American editions attempt to instruct and define who/what/how it should be done. In French fashion particularly, there has always been a strong presence of female designers and they weren’t neglected in fashion coverage (which has until recently been the case in the US outside of 3-4 big name female designers). So not only were the French aware of alternatives, but they aren’t told that there’s only one way to approach something.

Perhaps we need to get away from the idea of “aspirational” and start thinking of designers and magazines as only suggestions. I think self-esteem would rise considerably if the need to be so literal is put into some perspective.

]]> By: collective selection » Blog Archive » Women’s Fashion Designed by Gay Menhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-5122 collective selection » Blog Archive » Women’s Fashion Designed by Gay Men Tue, 06 May 2008 02:52:18 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-5122 [...] Fashion Indie goes on a rant about the disproportionate number of gay men designing women’s clothes: (Photo credit to Daniele Oberrauch for Style.com) Not to get all on the side of feminism here, but why is it that so much of what you wear is influenced by a man? Men don’t know jack about woman and gay men are especially tuned out to your needs since nothing about your figure or body satisfies them physically. They’re looking for twigs and berries and all you offer is, well, you know what you have to offer…Why don’t they care? [...] [...] Fashion Indie goes on a rant about the disproportionate number of gay men designing women’s clothes: (Photo credit to Daniele Oberrauch for Style.com) Not to get all on the side of feminism here, but why is it that so much of what you wear is influenced by a man? Men don’t know jack about woman and gay men are especially tuned out to your needs since nothing about your figure or body satisfies them physically. They’re looking for twigs and berries and all you offer is, well, you know what you have to offer…Why don’t they care? [...]

]]> By: clairehttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-5112 claire Mon, 05 May 2008 23:00:44 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-5112 Why don't more people - gay or straight, women or men - design clothes for the 'real woman'? Because fashion is ASPIRATIONAL. Its about fantasy. Actually, plenty of clothes out there *are* designed for the average woman but they're not, however, the ones that drive the fantasy hype of the magazines and runways. They've tried it - putting normal women in wearable clothes - in the fantasy and guess what? It doesn't sell. We see that on the streets everywhere and its not what we want to see in our aspirational fantasy.When most straight men design clothes, their designs look like they're for strippers. Or video game characters. Gay men seem to be better able to create this abstract ideal of feminine beauty without overtly sexualizing it.So why do gay men rule the fashion world and not women? Is it the boys club network? Check out Eric Wilson's Dec 05 article in the NY Times for some insight. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/fashion/thursdaystyles/08FASHION.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=gay+men+fashion+pier&st=nyt&oref=slogin Why don’t more people – gay or straight, women or men – design clothes for the ‘real woman’? Because fashion is ASPIRATIONAL. Its about fantasy. Actually, plenty of clothes out there *are* designed for the average woman but they’re not, however, the ones that drive the fantasy hype of the magazines and runways. They’ve tried it – putting normal women in wearable clothes – in the fantasy and guess what? It doesn’t sell. We see that on the streets everywhere and its not what we want to see in our aspirational fantasy.

When most straight men design clothes, their designs look like they’re for strippers. Or video game characters. Gay men seem to be better able to create this abstract ideal of feminine beauty without overtly sexualizing it.

So why do gay men rule the fashion world and not women? Is it the boys club network? Check out Eric Wilson’s Dec 05 article in the NY Times for some insight. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/fashion/thursdaystyles/08FASHION.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=gay+men+fashion+pier&st=nyt&oref=slogin

]]> By: Stuff I Readhttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-4964 Stuff I Read Sat, 03 May 2008 05:26:26 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-4964 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] topic that has been floating around the internet for a while, but I like this particular write up. This is why I hate the 'high fashion' side of the apparel industry. LinkLeave a [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] topic that has been floating around the internet for a while, but I like this particular write up. This is why I hate the ‘high fashion’ side of the apparel industry. LinkLeave a [...]

]]> By: Even anti-social people need friends. -http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-4957 Even anti-social people need friends. - Sat, 03 May 2008 02:18:08 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-4957 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] 7:47 PM This is a topic that has been floating around the internet for a while, but I like this particular write up. This is why I hate the 'high fashion' side of the apparel industry. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] 7:47 PM This is a topic that has been floating around the internet for a while, but I like this particular write up. This is why I hate the ‘high fashion’ side of the apparel industry. [...]

]]> By: Cheap JAP » Blog Archive » Operation Avoidance: The One-Shoulder Tophttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-4921 Cheap JAP » Blog Archive » Operation Avoidance: The One-Shoulder Top Fri, 02 May 2008 16:04:02 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-4921 [...] who influences approximately 98% of fashion’s trends? Gay men. And guess who gay men have in mind when they’re designing women’s clothing? Other men. [...] [...] who influences approximately 98% of fashion’s trends? Gay men. And guess who gay men have in mind when they’re designing women’s clothing? Other men. [...]

]]> By: Daniel Saynthttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-4831 Daniel Saynt Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:48:56 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-4831 thanks for the love. Perry ellis had been fixed. thanks for the love. Perry ellis had been fixed.

]]> By: missviolethttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-4828 missviolet Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:59:20 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-4828 i loved this article. you were able to analyze the fashion industry's attack on womens bodies in a conscise manner. also, you repeated "perry ellis" twice on your list, dear. i loved this article. you were able to analyze the fashion industry’s attack on womens bodies in a conscise manner. also, you repeated “perry ellis” twice on your list, dear.

]]> By: trendinistahttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-4827 trendinista Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:52:16 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-4827 "I just ate some garlic. You smell that." Okay, I think I just peed myself a little!!!!!! “I just ate some garlic. You smell that.” Okay, I think I just peed myself a little!!!!!!

]]> By: Elegant Lines - A weblog about style, fashion and home…http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-6380 Elegant Lines - A weblog about style, fashion and home… Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-6380 <!--%kramer-pre%-->all men are idiots(well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the "Cool Jewelry Report" featuring Mari Funaki, Bijules, and Renata Mann.Fashion Binge is having a love/hate relationship with extreme handbags.Couture In The City wants you to<!--%kramer-post%--> all men are idiots(well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the “Cool Jewelry Report” featuring Mari Funaki, Bijules, and Renata Mann.Fashion Binge is having a love/hate relationship with extreme handbags.Couture In The City wants you to

]]> By: trendinistahttp://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/comment-page-1/#comment-6379 trendinista Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://fashionindie.com/stuff-fashion-people-like-21-gay-fashion-designers/#comment-6379 <!--%kramer-pre%-->all men are idiots(well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the "Cool Jewelry Report" featuring Mari Funaki, Bijules, and Renata Mann.Fashion Binge is having a love/hate relationship with extreme handbags.Couture In The City wants you to<!--%kramer-post%--> all men are idiots(well, at least in fashion).Thread Trend has the “Cool Jewelry Report” featuring Mari Funaki, Bijules, and Renata Mann.Fashion Binge is having a love/hate relationship with extreme handbags.Couture In The City wants you to

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