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		<title>By: Ski Goggles</title>
		<link>http://fashionindie.com/take-it-off-designers-exalt-the-controversial-burka/comment-page-2/#comment-25846</link>
		<dc:creator>Ski Goggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice pictures though</description>
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		<title>By: Western woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Western woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zita! You are fabulous! It&#039;s soo funny how Kirby can&#039;t seem to handle anyone&#039;s opinion but her own. Love when people with a closed mind try to justify their outdated opinions... Much respect Zita, mwah!  ;) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zita! You are fabulous! It&#039;s soo funny how Kirby can&#039;t seem to handle anyone&#039;s opinion but her own. Love when people with a closed mind try to justify their outdated opinions&#8230; Much respect Zita, mwah!  <img src='http://fashionindie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zita Devi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zita Devi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am very shocked that this girl would be wearing burka, perhaps you are confusing it with hijab. 

But maybe im just confused anyway... she wasn&#039;t allowed to play because in the game, its not safe.  well whatever the matter was, i don&#039;t see wy anyone should be forced to play basket ball, if they dont want to. But she can still observe hijab and play  basket ball.. the make attire suitable for sports(which is tight enough not to cause any danger), that does not break hijab. 

anyway, yeah the important thing is that no one is censored here. And condemning an artist for doing ANYTHING in fear of a reaction is leaning towards the ideals which induce censorship. And isn&#039;t that just a bit ironic, considering you seem to stand against the silencing of women?

besides, I really doubt that the sources of control who are forcing women to wear burka, really care/are influnced by western artists and their statements. I mean they hardly need THEIR justification, since as we have seen, they dont seem to feel that they need ANY justification save for their own slanted interpretation of scripture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am very shocked that this girl would be wearing burka, perhaps you are confusing it with hijab. </p>
<p>But maybe im just confused anyway&#8230; she wasn&#8217;t allowed to play because in the game, its not safe.  well whatever the matter was, i don&#8217;t see wy anyone should be forced to play basket ball, if they dont want to. But she can still observe hijab and play  basket ball.. the make attire suitable for sports(which is tight enough not to cause any danger), that does not break hijab. </p>
<p>anyway, yeah the important thing is that no one is censored here. And condemning an artist for doing ANYTHING in fear of a reaction is leaning towards the ideals which induce censorship. And isn&#8217;t that just a bit ironic, considering you seem to stand against the silencing of women?</p>
<p>besides, I really doubt that the sources of control who are forcing women to wear burka, really care/are influnced by western artists and their statements. I mean they hardly need THEIR justification, since as we have seen, they dont seem to feel that they need ANY justification save for their own slanted interpretation of scripture.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Alexander-Saynt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Alexander-Saynt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many designers that have challenged the fine line between fashion and culture. For example, Hussein Chalayan&#039;s shows have &quot;revealed a social conscience absent elsewhere in the fashion industry: naked models wearing dresses based on the traditional Islamic chador, as a comment on the treatment of women in Muslim societies.&quot;

This is all interpretation of what fashion really means, no need to argue!

To view the image &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2005/10/his-autumnwinte.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click here. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many designers that have challenged the fine line between fashion and culture. For example, Hussein Chalayan&#8217;s shows have &#8220;revealed a social conscience absent elsewhere in the fashion industry: naked models wearing dresses based on the traditional Islamic chador, as a comment on the treatment of women in Muslim societies.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is all interpretation of what fashion really means, no need to argue!</p>
<p>To view the image <a href="http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2005/10/his-autumnwinte.php" rel="nofollow">click here. </a></p>
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		<title>By: Kirby</title>
		<link>http://fashionindie.com/take-it-off-designers-exalt-the-controversial-burka/comment-page-1/#comment-12813</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By all means, there is nothing I love more than the comments and opinions of my readers, I just don&#039;t know if you see my position. Take this for instance, back in high school, a neighboring school had an issue where a girl required to wear a burka because of her Islamic faith was forbidden to play on the school basketball team. The basketball thing was a safety rule, but don&#039;t you think it is absurd that she couldn&#039;t even participate in a sport because she had to always wear a burka in public? 

I just don&#039;t want those sects of Islamic culture who do force the burka on women seeing that since it is on the runway, it must be acceptable to continue forcing it. Yes, fashion is an expression of art and culture, but when it boils down to force vs. choice, I think designers should know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By all means, there is nothing I love more than the comments and opinions of my readers, I just don&#8217;t know if you see my position. Take this for instance, back in high school, a neighboring school had an issue where a girl required to wear a burka because of her Islamic faith was forbidden to play on the school basketball team. The basketball thing was a safety rule, but don&#8217;t you think it is absurd that she couldn&#8217;t even participate in a sport because she had to always wear a burka in public? </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t want those sects of Islamic culture who do force the burka on women seeing that since it is on the runway, it must be acceptable to continue forcing it. Yes, fashion is an expression of art and culture, but when it boils down to force vs. choice, I think designers should know better.</p>
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		<title>By: zitadevi</title>
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		<dc:creator>zitadevi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry if i&#039;m upsetting you, but it seems that you aren&#039;t giving fashion enough credit. 

As far as I knew, you weren&#039;t talking about commercial fashion, you were talking about BIG NAME designers.. as in artists, these aren&#039;t meant to be common, on the street, ready to wear items to be sold for a profit. These are clearly statement pieces, so i have yet to see any sort of exploitation, as there is no money to be made.

Either way, religious imagery does not have to be contained in it&#039;s own sector. Religion does not work that way. The sacred and profane AREN&#039;T separate, and fashion has a history of reflecting culture, yes? well guess what honey, religion is an inseparable part of culture. 


i wonder if you also forgot this is a blog... and a very popular mainstream one, meant to highlight mainstream opinion on fashion.
The comments section are meant to extend the conversation.
If you do not which to participate in this way, please do not allow comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry if i&#8217;m upsetting you, but it seems that you aren&#8217;t giving fashion enough credit. </p>
<p>As far as I knew, you weren&#8217;t talking about commercial fashion, you were talking about BIG NAME designers.. as in artists, these aren&#8217;t meant to be common, on the street, ready to wear items to be sold for a profit. These are clearly statement pieces, so i have yet to see any sort of exploitation, as there is no money to be made.</p>
<p>Either way, religious imagery does not have to be contained in it&#8217;s own sector. Religion does not work that way. The sacred and profane AREN&#8217;T separate, and fashion has a history of reflecting culture, yes? well guess what honey, religion is an inseparable part of culture. </p>
<p>i wonder if you also forgot this is a blog&#8230; and a very popular mainstream one, meant to highlight mainstream opinion on fashion.<br />
The comments section are meant to extend the conversation.<br />
If you do not which to participate in this way, please do not allow comments.</p>
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		<title>By: zitadevi</title>
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		<dc:creator>zitadevi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry if i&#039;m upsetting you, but it seems that you aren&#039;t giving fashion enough credit. 

As far as I knew, you weren&#039;t talking about commercial fashion, you were talking about BIG NAME designers.. as in artists, these aren&#039;t meant to be common, on the street, ready to wear items to be sold for a profit. These are clearly statement pieces, so i have yet to see any sort of exploitation.

Either way, people take religious images too seriously. 


It&#039;s just fashion, darling.

or rather, it&#039;s just art, and you are just</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry if i&#8217;m upsetting you, but it seems that you aren&#8217;t giving fashion enough credit. </p>
<p>As far as I knew, you weren&#8217;t talking about commercial fashion, you were talking about BIG NAME designers.. as in artists, these aren&#8217;t meant to be common, on the street, ready to wear items to be sold for a profit. These are clearly statement pieces, so i have yet to see any sort of exploitation.</p>
<p>Either way, people take religious images too seriously. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just fashion, darling.</p>
<p>or rather, it&#8217;s just art, and you are just</p>
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		<title>By: Kirby</title>
		<link>http://fashionindie.com/take-it-off-designers-exalt-the-controversial-burka/comment-page-1/#comment-12745</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if you realized, but this is a FASHION blog, not a cultural debate website. I&#039;m merely taking the standpoint that it&#039;s not alright for designers to exploit the burka, just as it&#039;s not alright for them to exploit a crucifix, the yamacha or any other religious symbol for that mater.

This is my opinion and my &quot;ignorance&quot; has nothing to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you realized, but this is a FASHION blog, not a cultural debate website. I&#8217;m merely taking the standpoint that it&#8217;s not alright for designers to exploit the burka, just as it&#8217;s not alright for them to exploit a crucifix, the yamacha or any other religious symbol for that mater.</p>
<p>This is my opinion and my &#8220;ignorance&#8221; has nothing to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zita Devi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zita Devi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I do not mean to bring this into some silly internet feud, it is just upsetting to me when people make glossed-over statements about religious issues, which they do not understand the full detail of.

For example, you say, &quot;just because Westernized women have the choice&quot; The majority of Muslims who choose to wear clothing as specified by al-Qur&#039;an live in Indonesia first, then India. (we are talking HUGE numbers of people)

It is deceptive to say that &quot;western&quot; women have a choice, while &quot;women from the east&quot; live in &quot;backwards, unenlightened&quot; societies, because this is not true.

MY point is that no, you can NOT say that Burka is a global symbol of oppression, because it represents something quite different, and far more complex for millions of Muslim women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I do not mean to bring this into some silly internet feud, it is just upsetting to me when people make glossed-over statements about religious issues, which they do not understand the full detail of.</p>
<p>For example, you say, &#8220;just because Westernized women have the choice&#8221; The majority of Muslims who choose to wear clothing as specified by al-Qur&#8217;an live in Indonesia first, then India. (we are talking HUGE numbers of people)</p>
<p>It is deceptive to say that &#8220;western&#8221; women have a choice, while &#8220;women from the east&#8221; live in &#8220;backwards, unenlightened&#8221; societies, because this is not true.</p>
<p>MY point is that no, you can NOT say that Burka is a global symbol of oppression, because it represents something quite different, and far more complex for millions of Muslim women.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you see my point. I understand that women&#039;s oppression existed long before the burka, but still, it is a symbol of that oppression. Just because Westernized women have the choice whether or not they want to wear a burka doesn&#039;t mean that ALL women have a choice. Designers shouldn&#039;t glorify something that has caused so much emotional pain to Islamic women...yes, some do enjoy their religious practices and have a choice, but many do not. If burkas are glamorized on the runway (which is absolutely in the public&#039;s eye), it will make it seem like wearing them is inherently ok, any for many women, it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you see my point. I understand that women&#8217;s oppression existed long before the burka, but still, it is a symbol of that oppression. Just because Westernized women have the choice whether or not they want to wear a burka doesn&#8217;t mean that ALL women have a choice. Designers shouldn&#8217;t glorify something that has caused so much emotional pain to Islamic women&#8230;yes, some do enjoy their religious practices and have a choice, but many do not. If burkas are glamorized on the runway (which is absolutely in the public&#8217;s eye), it will make it seem like wearing them is inherently ok, any for many women, it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Zita Devi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zita Devi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women&#039;s rights didn&#039;t exist long before the burka, and long before Islam. The fault lies not in the burka, but in a society who abuses it.

But don&#039;t you see the problem? If all you do is focus on the small parts of the world where women are/were(in Afghanistan&#039;s case) to wear burka, then you will completely miss the perspective of Muslims as a whole.


The Muslims in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are a tiny fraction of the Muslims in the world. 

The problem I&#039;m sure we will agree on with this, is the power of stereo typing, and by focusing on the image that we know of the burka in the west, in your post, you are only promoting that negative image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women&#8217;s rights didn&#8217;t exist long before the burka, and long before Islam. The fault lies not in the burka, but in a society who abuses it.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t you see the problem? If all you do is focus on the small parts of the world where women are/were(in Afghanistan&#8217;s case) to wear burka, then you will completely miss the perspective of Muslims as a whole.</p>
<p>The Muslims in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are a tiny fraction of the Muslims in the world. </p>
<p>The problem I&#8217;m sure we will agree on with this, is the power of stereo typing, and by focusing on the image that we know of the burka in the west, in your post, you are only promoting that negative image.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go culture yourself and take a little trip to Afghanistan and then come talk to me. 

While it is a religious symbol its by no means a righteous one. It&#039;s led to the destruction of women&#039;s rights and is more of a symbol of oppression than anything else. 

I respect those women who CHOOSE to wear their burka, but by no means do I condone the sects of Islamic religion/culture that FORCE women to wear such garments. Trust me, I&#039;m completely against the glamorization of religious symbols altogether. You won&#039;t catch me ever applauding the &quot;Jesus piece&quot;. Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go culture yourself and take a little trip to Afghanistan and then come talk to me. </p>
<p>While it is a religious symbol its by no means a righteous one. It&#8217;s led to the destruction of women&#8217;s rights and is more of a symbol of oppression than anything else. </p>
<p>I respect those women who CHOOSE to wear their burka, but by no means do I condone the sects of Islamic religion/culture that FORCE women to wear such garments. Trust me, I&#8217;m completely against the glamorization of religious symbols altogether. You won&#8217;t catch me ever applauding the &#8220;Jesus piece&#8221;. Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Zita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t talk about Burka, without at least ATTEMPTING  to understand the complexities of the garment. 
Many women CHOOSE to wear burka and not only western fashion designers abuse the image, but YOU are also ignorantly making assumptions about what the burka and hijab means. Before you attempt to make a statement involving a religion you know nothing about, please at speak to at least ONE practitioner about the topic, because it is clear that you have not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t talk about Burka, without at least ATTEMPTING  to understand the complexities of the garment.<br />
Many women CHOOSE to wear burka and not only western fashion designers abuse the image, but YOU are also ignorantly making assumptions about what the burka and hijab means. Before you attempt to make a statement involving a religion you know nothing about, please at speak to at least ONE practitioner about the topic, because it is clear that you have not.</p>
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